Dry Suits, again

topic posted Mon, September 24, 2007 - 5:15 PM by 
Hey, so I am having a dry suit made. So far it looks like it is between DUI and an USIA. The USIA is quite a bit less expensive, around 1600. The DUI will be about 1800. They are all backed-up in terms of getting them finished so both will take about 10 weeks...Yes, 9/11 has even hit us scuba-folk as millions was given to the police and fire departments for water-stuff and they're all having drysuits made in the name of homeland security..oy vey.

Any thoughts?
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  • That said, and wishing I had read the post on search and recovery..no disrespect meant!
    • Unsu...
       
      You know, our search and recovery team is a non-profit 501(c)(3). We get by on small donations from local businesses and individuals, membership dues, and support from a very few dive shops.

      Our town has nearly ten dive shops, but only one of them is generous in supporting our team, and most give us no support at all. In particular, the most financially successful dive shop in town won't give us a penny.

      We get no funding from government. There is probably some grant money out there, but no one has had time to write a grant proposal.

      But I think the feds are indifferent to local efforts like ours. We don't spend our time looking for underwater terrorists.

      In fact, while some local law enforcement are very grateful that we are there to help them out, other local law enforcement seem to despise us, as if we are steping on the turf of their own dive teams, who get a lot of funding but who cannot field the same kind of search operations we are capable of.

      Just one AGA mask (full face mask with communications) costs over a thousand dollars. We don't have enough for every member, and some members have purchased AGA masks out of their own pockets. Divers have to supply all of their own equipment, other than the rescue equipment.

      We keep searching after the government funded law enforcement search teams have given up. All on volunteer time, money and donations.

      I don't know how much of Homeland Security's budget has gone into public safety diving, but I can assure you it is not the volunteer teams who have bought all the dry suits that created the back log of which you speak.
  • Holy ----.... now I understand why someone I was just talking to said he spent $8000 on gear for him and his fiancee. I know nothing about dry suits and wasn't aware that they were custom made. Unless I move to Canada and start teaching, there's little odds I'll be getting one.
    • Again, no disrespect meant! in terms of the backlog and all that, I believe if the police and firefighters are going to be in the water they should have the best equipment available! I was more stating everything from a "i fucking hate bush and his patriot act/homeland security" standpoint. And i was only stating what I had heard from two dive shops as to why there is such a long waiting period.

      And Amanda..no shit! The dui i was looking into being made would be $1800 with my instructor's rate which is 1/2 price! and with a dry suit i am going to need a new BC, ($400-$600) and possibly new fins, ($150)...oy vey!!! I am not sure yet where this money is coming from but really, who needs food when there's diving to be done?
      • Unsu...
         
        I don't really see outrlocal police and firefighters getting their dive teams in the water any more now than they were before 911, but if taxpayers feel safer from terrorism by plying police and fire dive teams with lots of new gear they seldom use or even have time to train with, I say, go for it!

        I'll tell you who I admire, though, and that is the NYC police and fire dive teams. Those are some difficult dive locations. Dirty, low vis, and hazardous. I hope some of the new gear made it their way, as opposed to say, a fire department in some small town in Arizona that is 250 miles from the nearest body of water.
        • Oh lord, yes watched that video I think Bobzilla put out...freaky stuff diving down there. I had called to help with search and rescue after Katrina but they only wanted firefighters and military folk to do the diving there. I can understand but they were so short handed. I think it's for the best, however, as I don't know if I would have survived the trauma. I don't know how those people do it. I admire them too.
          • <<The BC I understand, but why would you need new fins? >>

            Alot of drysuit boots are too big to accomodate the fins that you would normally wear if just diving with neoprene boot(ies) on - so you have to go up a size to make it all work. :-)
            • Ah, I didn't know there were special boots. Almost all my diving has been done in tropical water, and I am just finding out what it takes to dive back home in temperate water. I'm so glad I just bought the roomier XL pair of fins now!
              • It really depends on the drysuit, its fit, etc. Some dry suits have a neoprene "sock" which is sealed against water intrusion - and over them you wear a drysuit boot (although some divers just wear converse all-stars!). To get your foot/shoe into the fin pocket is a bit hard. :)
                • I'm hoping to not have to buy new fins. I am going to order the non-treaded boot for this reason. Honestly, what a scam these things are!! So much money and I am so buying into it! They really do get people back in the water though huh?
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                    Well, if it get you back in the water and makes you comfortable (and you are happy) then - you can't really put a price tag on it. I didn't have the greatest drysuit experience so at this point, I am really not interested in shelling out that kind of $$ on one, but perhaps in the future .......... :o)

                    When are you coming diving then Holly?
                    • Damnit Soon!! I just cannot seem to muster the moxie to get back in cold water. At one point renting a suit didn't bother me and now...well, it's fucking cold! So..when ya'all going again. I will do my best to get over myself and join you!
                      • What's the water temp up there in the Bay? Last week it was a sweet 62 here in L.A! I am extremely cold sensitive, but I didn't die, which is a shock considering the last time I was in the water it was 84 in Playa del Carmen, Mexico.
                      • We are diving in the evening/night on October 6th and then have a get together at Pt. Lobos on the 7th during the day. You are welcome to join us for either (PM me if you are and I will send the details), although there are no more spots for divers for the 7th (I think we booked it all up almost!). Just let me know.

                        The temps the other weekend (2 weeks ago) were in the mid to high 50s, although my computer recorded at 64 degree dive at about 20-25 feet. I am not sure how accurate that is however since the next dive was colder. Here is my newish diveblog if you are interested: sarahgoesscubadiving.blogspot.com/

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